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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:42 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

i'm dealing with about 4k+ data points at a time for my uni project. at present all i'm doing is plotting simple scatter graphs. however i'll soon be dealing with more and more data. I'm finding that excel is slow as fuck once i've made the graph.

my system is an intel pentium 2.23Ghz dual core, 2Gb RAM and running Mac OS snow leopard. Thoughts on alternative programs that will be compatable with excel and .pwr files that may run better?

muchos gracias.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:45 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

I agree. the mac version of excel is incredibly slow. MS are really messing up there. Most of my colleagues are using Matlab, but you would have to learn the language first (but is pretty simple). Also isn't free, but your uni might have a license.

You could also try Apple's own 'numbers' or how it is called. Haven't used it myself but I have heard good things...

edit: if you have parallels or boot camp, you could try the PC version of excel. It is much speedier....

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:14 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Pandora wrote:
edit: if you have parallels or boot camp, you could try the PC version of excel. It is much speedier....


Or OpenOffice, which has a much lighter footprint than MS Office.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:13 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

of course, totally forgot about that.
isn't there a mac version of open office as well?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:57 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

MD-2389 wrote:
Or OpenOffice, which has a much lighter footprint than MS Office.


was just gonna say..

We're switching over at work - MS with their fucking default .docx format.. ++ $$? Fuck that.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:01 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Pandora wrote:
of course, totally forgot about that.
isn't there a mac version of open office as well?


http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US
roid
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:34 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

OpenOffice is just as slow. Don't bother.

Use Google Docs.
http://docs.google.com/
Let Google's Serverfarms do the rendering for you.
(seriously, this is the exact reason i use google docs, graphs render near INSTANTLY).

If you already have your Excell sheet made up, it's real quick to just upload it to Google docs.

note: There is a bug with making graphs though, all of your data has to be in one block. You can't select a row here and a row there - they have to be side by side.
To get around this, what you do is just make faux columns or rows that reference the rows you want. Arranged these faux columns/rows all together, then set your graph to use that block instead.
If you don't understand this, PM or IM me and i'll show you (or give me access and i'll just plain DO IT FOR YOU, hehe, can't do THAT shit in Excell.).

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:56 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Go-OpenOffice. Modification of OpenOffice.org.

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Go-oo has built in OpenXML import filters and it will import your Microsoft Works files. Compared with up-stream OO.o, it has better Microsoft binary file support (with eg. fields support), and it will import WordPerfect graphics beautifully. If you are reliant on Excel VBA macros - then Go-oo offers the best macro fidelity too. If you expect your spreadsheets to calculate compatibly, or you get embedded Visio diagrams in your documents, you'll want Go-oo.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 5:51 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Aahhhh MATLAB!!! Shocked

I forgot about Open Office, I think I'll give Google Docs a shot! I've been really happy with the Mac Office 08 so far, I'm only finding excel slow because I have SO much more data than what I normally plot.

Cheers for the suggestions;)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:42 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

oops, according to google docs my spread has too much info... i shall try Go-OO

Go-OO ftw.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:34 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

Yeah, Google Docs is nice if you have a small project to work on. It's definitely NOT even close to being capable of cutting it for a corporate environment. You would need an actual office suite for that kind of job.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:26 am View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

google docs tells me i have >400k cells. bad times.
so much analysis, so little time. if i could sing a little and be pretty, i could whore myself.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:25 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

HaAGY wrote:
google docs tells me i have >400k cells. bad times.
so much analysis, so little time. if i could sing a little and be pretty, i could whore myself.


that's weird.
This spreadsheet of mine has over 6048 cells.
i made graphs (on the next sheet) from about 432 of them.

can you email me the spreadsheet or data to gmail.com roidroid@

i'll see what i can do, and if i get it working i'll transfer what i've done to your google account.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:57 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

400,000 cells roidy Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:43 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

oh, OH! haha. yikes. with that kinda data size maybe you should be using something like matlab.

Or if not:
Cut up the data and paste it into multiple spreadsheets, each with only 100,000 cells or so. Then writeup some forumulas (in the spreadsheets) to summerize the data down, until it can fit into one spreadsheet.

i mean, a graph can only show so much resolution, once you get above a few thousands data-points i doubt it'd be possible to visually tell the difference anyway.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:07 pm View user's profile Reply with quote Send private message

With that much data you want a real database, not excel. Use Access.
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